Delay while recording- please help

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Delay while recording- please help

Post by mecatgrl » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:17 pm

There is another thread on this topic, but quite frankly none of it made sense. I'm recording in Audacity and want to use headphones but there is a delay and I can't possibly record vocals this way. What can I do to stop the delay? Please don't talk to me about sound card options because that will do nothing for me at all. I need Audacity for dummies answers only.

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by kozikowski » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:46 pm

I'm writing this up for the Audacity wiki. All three ways use a hardware solution. No sound card options.

This is one way using the Shure X2U device.

The X2U manages the headphones, not the computer and the live voice comes to you with no delay. It mixes the old tracks with your live voice and does it with volume controls on both.

Couldn't be simpler. But it's not free.

http://www.kozco.com/tech/audacity/pix/ ... verdub.jpg

That messy thing on the end is my beat-up Shure SM58 microphone. Yours will no doubt look better. Any XLR microphone works.

I'll collect the setup documents and send them along if you're interested. They're preliminary.

There are two other ways to do this. The Behringer UCA-202 allows you to use an external mixer with perfect headphone audio, and the Samson G-Track which mixes headphones inside the microphone. The headphones connect on the bottom.

Let me know.

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by Trebor » Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:46 am

kozikowski wrote:The X2U manages the headphones, not the computer and the live voice comes to you with no delay. It mixes the old tracks with your live voice and does it with volume controls on both.
No delay in singer's headphones, but there will be a delay on the recording if latency correction has not been applied. [i.e. the original poster will still have to understand latency correction in Audacity even if they buy a headphone mixer like X2U].

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by kozikowski » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:04 am

What can I do to stop the delay?
That was the post. These three solutions will absolutely stop the delay.

If you're going to go on to do complex multi-track, overdubbing and sound on sound, yes, then you do have to make one straightforward Audacity adjustment (Latency) after which that, too, comes out perfect.

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by Trebor » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:06 am

kozikowski wrote:... you do have to make one straightforward Audacity adjustment (Latency) after which that, too, comes out perfect.
"straightforward" for the cognoscenti, but perhaps not so for a novice who requires "Audacity for dummies answers".

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by kozikowski » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:57 am

"Audacity for dummies answers".
Which is what I'm writing. It's a subset of the all-encompassing wiki post. If all you have is a microphone -- as in the illustration, then most of the wiki post is not relevant to you and can look overwhelming.

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by kozikowski » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:59 am

And just to dig up the Desperation Method, If you know how to Time Shift Tool your work into place, a much simpler idea, then you don't need to go through the latency process.

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by mecatgrl » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:45 am

And the dummy who doesn't understand Latency chimes in with, so what you are saying is there is only hardware fixes and now way to make it work from my computer?

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by mecatgrl » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:52 am

Another thing, is it just Audacity? Because my roommate uses Adobe Audition with no delay and he had that right from the start of turning it on.

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Re: Delay while recording- please help

Post by Trebor » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:03 am

mecatgrl wrote:Another thing, is it just Audacity? Because my roommate uses Adobe Audition with no delay and he had that right from the start of turning it on.
Adobe Audition may be using ASIO drivers (software) which have low latency ...
ASIO (Audio Stream Input/Output) is a multichannel transfer protocol that allows compatible software to have direct access to the multichannel capabilities of ASIO sound cards. Direct access to the sound card allows for much lower latency (delay between the input and output) than other driver types (for example, DirectSound, or MME).
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/332/332220.html

Only the super geeky can get Audacity to use ASIO drivers ...
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php? ... _Interface

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