Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

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Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by Killheart7 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:27 am

Hello all. I'm trying to record eight tracks simultaneously using Audacity Beta, but having no luck so far. I'm using a Delta 1010 and showing input/output from all channels with the Delta's software. Audacity is set to record 8 channels, but only the first two will ever pick up input/record in these settings. When I switch the input to Delta 1010 3/4, I get input from channels three and four, and those two record fine. It seems like Audacity is just not reading more than two channels at once. Any help is much appreciated.

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by kozikowski » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:51 am

This seems to be one of the many sound cards that delivers multiple channels of sound in stereo pairs. Audacity will only manage one "device" at a time -- usually stereo.

http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 77&start=0

<<<Somewhere on the forum is some information about the M-AUDIO DELTA 1010LT saying that it works, providing you use old drivers for it.>>>

Multi-Track is extraordinarily hard to do.

Koz

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by Killheart7 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:14 am

It's not often I get a forum question answered and resolved in one day. Thanks much for the input, it led me in the right direction.

Here's the answer for all of other Delta 1010 users out there.

You want the old Service Pack 2 drivers for the Delta series, found here:
http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=sup ... vers&f=785

You want to use Audacity 1.3.5 in conjunction with the old drivers.

That's it.

This combination immediately worked for me. I tried the old drivers with 1.2.6, 1.3.5, 1.3.7, and 1.3.8. Only 1.3.5 would let me select Delta 1010 Multi, 8 Channels, and actually initialize and record.

This probably works for the Delta 1010LT as well, though I can't say from experience. As for the Delta 44, mine has always worked flawlessly, all four channels at once, with every version of Audacity that I've used. If your Delta 44 is refusing to multi-channel record, try switching drivers.

Thanks for the help, kozikowski.

-Justin

...Live, full band recordings are so good.

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by dgoldsmith » Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:44 am

Perhaps I should start a new thread, but this one is so close to "on target"... I'm interested in direct-to-Audacity simultaneous multi-track recording, so I'm glad to see that someone has had success w/ this on the software end. My "new" twist: if possible, I'd like to do this w/ my present laptop, a Toshiba Satellite L555-S7918. I recognize that typically I'd have to get a supplemental audio card, but the laptop I/O portals are cast into the plastic and thus only accommodate the shapes of the jacks it already has, which are: two USB ports (but I also have a 7 port USB 2.0 hub), a standard phone jack, an ethernet jack, a 15-pin VGA monitor port, a combo eSATA/USB port, standard 1/8" mic (mono) and phone jacks, and an SD-style memory card slot. So my options appear to be: find a laptop-compatible audio card whose port geometry matches one of these portals (e.g., the 15-pin monitor port), or an external card/contraption whose interface matches one of my existing ports (e.g., the memory card slot or the eSATA/USB combo port). Anyone reading this hear/know of anything like these? Or can suggest other options? (I'm open to recording the tracks using other software, but then I'd prefer to post-process in Audacity, since that's what I'm familiar with; ultimately, though, if it's the difference between doing or not doing it, I can do it all outside of Audacity if need be). Thanks!

DG

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by kozikowski » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:47 am

We warn people against using USB hubs for live production. Put your Live Sound Device into USB-1 and the hub and everything else into USB-2.

We were really pushing it when we found that one technique that succeeded in multi-channel. Up until then, there was zero. Write back if you find something.

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by dgoldsmith » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:23 am

Gotchya!

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by dgoldsmith » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:25 am

Oh, I'm sorry: "that one technique"?

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by dgoldsmith » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:52 am

Sorry, one more: how many channels, coming and going, can you safely transmit over a USB connection? Thanks again!

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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by kozikowski » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:07 am


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Re: Recording Multiple Tracks Simultaneously

Post by dgoldsmith » Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:36 am

OK, having looked up the UCA-202, I see the relevance of having to warn people off hubs. But if I were to dedicate each of my three USB's (i.e., no hubs) to one of these Behringers, am I correct to understand that it might be feasible to use Audacity to record up to six live tracks simultaneously (and by extension 4 "direct-to-chip" USBs would get me up to eight tracks, etc.)? Or is it (Audacity) still only able to monitor one port at a time?

DG

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