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seperating lp tracks

Post by coonsanders » Tue May 26, 2009 1:07 am

could somebody help to understand how to seperate lp tracks with this software?thoes videos didnt help......

lenny

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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by waxcylinder » Tue May 26, 2009 12:26 pm

Lenny,

All you need to do is to place a label at each track break - use the Ctrl-B shortcut - and don't forget to place a label right at the beginning for the first track.

Then use Audacity's Export Multiple command (available from the File drop-down) to export a multiple set of WAVs, MP3s or whatever.

What I do when transcribing LPs/Tapes/MDs is to create a crib-sheet for the project while I am recording it. I note the start/end time of each track and the time of any cracks/pops that I will want to edit out later in the clean-up process. Also I record both sides of the album as a single project - when I reach the end of side-1 press Pause - flip the record - and press Pause again to start recording again. Having it as a single project makes it easier to get the track numbering right automatically on Export.

To assist with the track numbering/ordering when creating the CD, I initially label the tracks as 01 <trackname1), 02 <trackname2> etc. Then Export Multiple WAV files. This gives me a set of WAV files that can easily be ordered correctly for burning to a music CD. (BTW the editing of labels is MUCH easier in the Beta 1.3.x version of Audacity - in 1.2 you have to erase the whole label a character t a time starting from the right and then re-type).


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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by coonsanders » Wed May 27, 2009 1:38 am

hi
couldent i just play a tune.....the stop it and then export it?ive been trying to do this and select "save as"name the track
and move on....why is that so complicated?

lenny

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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by waxcylinder » Wed May 27, 2009 9:19 am

Of course you can do it a tune at a time but IMHO that is more complicated than the labelling/multiple export - but it's purely down to personal choice of working method.

The important bit is to enjoy the music , however you get there
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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by coonsanders » Wed May 27, 2009 10:54 am

hi wax

could u tell me how to do it the way i want to?seperating each track etc and labeling it.i did with everyother sofrware i had previously.thanks.enjoy the music?you betcha.thanks..

lenny

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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by perldrivr » Thu May 28, 2009 7:44 am

When you look at the track for the album side after you have recorded it, use the selection tool to mark the point you want to split the track at. Go to the Edit drop down menu and select "Select..." and then "Start to Cursor" or "Cursor to End", this will highlight the selected portion of the track. Go back to the Edit menu and click on "Split". This will split the selected portion from the rest of the track. Move along the track to the next point you want to split and repeat until you have separated all your tracks. If you plan to burn these tracks to CD, turn on "Snap To" before you split you tracks - this will give proper length increments to your tracks for CD format.

I find it best to do all click removal and audio cleanup between tracks before I split them up.

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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by pdxrunner » Thu May 28, 2009 3:45 pm

perldrivr wrote:When you look at the track for the album side after you have recorded it, use the selection tool to mark the point you want to split the track at.
This is similar to the process I've been using. (I'm on WIndows, both XP and Vista, with Audacity 1.3.7) I always split from left to right along the recorded track. First, I zoom in to the area between LP cuts so that I can very precisely find a slit point. For albums with a long gaps between cuts I usually leave about a second of silence before and after my split point. If the gap is longer than that 2 seconds I cut out the extra. Once you have the split point marked with the cursor, hit CTRL-I to make the split. Now double-click to the left of the split point to select that entire clip, which should be just the first track from the LP. CTRL-B adds a label that spans the selected area - just type in the track title. Zoom back out so you can find the next gap between tracks and do the split & label process again. With practice this becomes fairly efficient (at least for me). I've averaged almost 2 needledropped LPs a week for the last year.

With all of the tracks labeled, when you 'Export Multiple', the labels you typed in become the file names and the track titles in the metadata (for the export formats that support metadata).

Note: save the PROJECT frequently while your doing this!
perldrivr wrote:I find it best to do all click removal and audio cleanup between tracks before I split them up.
Definitely agree with this! Track splitting is always the last operation I do on my digitized LPs (before archiving the project.)

As stevethefiddle and Koz are always pointing out, audacity projects are brittle, so my archive practice is the following:

1. Save (i.e. Export) the entire project as FLAC immediately after recording. Normally these are titled 'Album Name - side n - raw' since I record each album side as separate clips. If I ever decide I don't like the processing I did (maybe there's a more magical ClickRepair or DeNoise in the future) I can go back to the the original recording. this is my 'master tape'.

2. After any processing and the track splitting, save (Export) the entire project as a single FLAC, which I call 'Album Name - cooked'.

3. Save the track splits ('Export labels' command). this write out a text file.

4. I archive to dvd or external disk only the 2 'raw' FLACs, the 'cooked' FLAC and the labels text file. If I need to rework anything, open a new Audacity project and recreate the original project using 'Import audio' of the FLACs and then import the labels.

Hope this helps.

--Ken

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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by vinceq » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:45 pm

I am sorry for what is likely a stupid question or comment...new to the software (trying to justify my stupidity). I'm running 1.3.7 (Unicode)

I too am trying to separate tracks from an LP I recorded. I am missing something after reading this post. I can place a split point but it won't let me label (Ctril-B) a track. Also, I don't have a "Export Multiple" on the File pulldown menu. I have a "Export" and "Export Selection" only.

Any suggestions as to why I don't have these functions mentioned in the post?
Thanks
Vince

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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by coonsanders » Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:00 am

hi vince...

nice to meet another guy who does this type of thing.well the way i do it is i play a song from an lp and click save project as and
then i export it to my desktop so i can put it to a cd,.but before i export it i edit with the click remover.and then i export it..
hope this helped..

lenny

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Re: seperating lp tracks

Post by vinceq » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:10 am

Lenny,
Thanks for the info. I hope I'm not hijacking your post. I don't have a "click remover" option. I'm wondering if I have the latest version, 1.3.7?

But, thanks for your splitting process.
Vince

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