Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

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Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by grisutheguru » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:11 am

Hi there!

I am using the actual beta (1.3.13) on a user account with no admin rights.
At the prefs-dialog I want to setup the path to the external bibliotheks for lame and ffmpeg, but audacity is not recognising them. The files are at their correct path as shown in the dialog.

I checked with the admin account, and the bibliotheks are recognised, the user rights for the path is rx, and audacity is running correctly and recognises the libs.

What now?

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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by Gale Andrews » Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:29 pm

Unfortunately your message is not very clear. First you say Audacity is not recognising the libs and then "audacity is running correctly and recognises the libs". Does this mean that Audacity displays the library version numbers in the Libraries Preferences but there is an error message when you export MP3 or MP4? If so, what does the error say?

How did you install the libraries without admin rights or the admin password, or did the admin do that for you? Have you verified the admin has really given you sufficient permission to read and execute the library files, for example by opening the dylib file in a text editor and seeing if you get a permissions error?

If it does not work, follow the troubleshooting steps in the FAQ:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/FAQ: ... s#Mac_OS_X

That is, get the alternative zip download for Lame 3.98.2, extract the contents of the zip to a folder called "Lame_Library_v3.98.2_for_Audacity_on_OSX" anywhere in your own user space, then locate the extracted "libmp3lame.dylib" using the Libraries Preferences.

Follow similar steps for the alternative zip download for FFmpeg 0.6.2 (choose a different name for the folder you extract FFmpeg to).



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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by grisutheguru » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:58 am

Sorry for not being clear enough.

I am tranig to explanier it again.

Loggend in as normal user, Audacity does NOT recognise the libraries.

Loggend in as admin user, Audacity does recognise the libraries.

I have installed the libraries as normal user, but the installer claimed admin rights during installation.

Tanks for your help.

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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by Gale Andrews » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:24 am

grisutheguru wrote:Sorry for not being clear enough.

I am tranig to explanier it again.

Loggend in as normal user, Audacity does NOT recognise the libraries.

Loggend in as admin user, Audacity does recognise the libraries.
Then your permissions are messed up, which is common on OS X 10.6 or 10.7. What version of OS X are you on?

You can try from the terminal:

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sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/local/lib/audacity
Or you can try Go > Utilities > Disk Utilities > Verify Disk and Repair Permissions.

There are other more complicated things you can try in the Finder.
grisutheguru wrote: I have installed the libraries as normal user, but the installer claimed admin rights during installation.
Good. Suppose the Lame or FFmpeg installer was malware that could damage your computer. You would not want an ordinary user to install software in that case.

Have you tried forgetting about installing LAME and FFmpeg and extracting the dylib files as I suggested above ?



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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by grisutheguru » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:39 am

Then your permissions are messed up, which is common on OS X 10.6 or 10.7. What version of OS X are you on?
10.7.2
sudo chmod -R 755 /usr/local/lib/audacity
The permissions are already wrx-rx-rx for root:wheel
Good. Suppose the Lame or FFmpeg installer was malware that could damage your computer. You would not want an ordinary user to install software in that case.
hmmm, I installed it using the link from inside Audacity clicking the [Download] button at Prefs/Library. I don't think, it should be malware. Any installer asks for admin-rights to change files outside of the user folder.

Here's the directory listing:

bash-3.2# ls -lah
total 26256
drwxr-xr-x 13 root wheel 442B 28 Okt 09:36 .
drwx------ 3 root wheel 102B 28 Okt 00:41 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 188K 6 Mai 05:45 ffmpeg
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 34K 23 Mär 2011 gpl-v3.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9,8M 6 Mai 05:45 libavcodec.52.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19B 28 Okt 09:36 libavcodec.dylib -> libavcodec.52.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1,6M 6 Mai 05:45 libavformat.52.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20B 28 Okt 09:36 libavformat.dylib -> libavformat.52.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 127K 6 Mai 05:45 libavutil.50.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18B 28 Okt 09:36 libavutil.dylib -> libavutil.50.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 737K 24 Dez 2008 libmp3lame.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 361K 6 Mai 05:45 libswscale.0.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18B 28 Okt 09:36 libswscale.dylib -> libswscale.0.dylib

The files are found exactly where Audacity looks for them. They are readable and exexcutable.

But still not working

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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by Gale Andrews » Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:11 am

grisutheguru wrote:The permissions are already wrx-rx-rx for root:wheel

You can't rely on any permissions indications if they are corrupted. DId you try repairing your permissions?
grisutheguru wrote: bash-3.2# ls -lah
total 26256
drwxr-xr-x 13 root wheel 442B 28 Okt 09:36 .
drwx------ 3 root wheel 102B 28 Okt 00:41 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 188K 6 Mai 05:45 ffmpeg
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 34K 23 Mär 2011 gpl-v3.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9,8M 6 Mai 05:45 libavcodec.52.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19B 28 Okt 09:36 libavcodec.dylib -> libavcodec.52.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1,6M 6 Mai 05:45 libavformat.52.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20B 28 Okt 09:36 libavformat.dylib -> libavformat.52.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 127K 6 Mai 05:45 libavutil.50.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18B 28 Okt 09:36 libavutil.dylib -> libavutil.50.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 737K 24 Dez 2008 libmp3lame.dylib
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 361K 6 Mai 05:45 libswscale.0.dylib
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18B 28 Okt 09:36 libswscale.dylib -> libswscale.0.dylib

The files are found exactly where Audacity looks for them. They are readable and exexcutable.

But still not working
I am not on Mac, so I don't know what the "- >" is - a symbolic link?

Either way, I don't really know what your issue is. Hopefully in 1.3.14 we will be installing FFmpeg and LAME other than in /usr/local/lib/audacity. You are welcome to attach the Audacity log from Help > Show Log if you like and we can see how the failure to recognise the libraries appears in the log. Is it still both FFmpeg and LAME that have the problem?

Meantime, have you tried the zip method and installed the libraries somewhere that doesn't have permissions problems?


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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by grisutheguru » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:01 pm

You can't rely on any permissions indications if they are corrupted. DId you try repairing your permissions?
Did at the beginneing of my trys, didn't help
Meantime, have you tried the zip method and installed the libraries somewhere that doesn't have permissions problems?
Copied to ~/bin, works now, but that can not be a final solution, can it?

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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by Gale Andrews » Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:00 am

grisutheguru wrote:Copied to ~/bin, works now, but that can not be a final solution, can it?
Gale Andrews wrote:Hopefully in 1.3.14 we will be installing FFmpeg and LAME other than in /usr/local/lib/audacity.

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Re: Audacity 1.3.13 beta with no admin rights

Post by EAM » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:18 am

Gale Andrews wrote: Follow similar steps for the alternative zip download for FFmpeg 0.6.2 (choose a different name for the folder you extract FFmpeg to).
Gale — Thanks for posting the direct download files. On my OS 10.6.7 machine the install seemed to be successful (no errors, installer said files written) but the ffmpeg libavformat file did not appear in the folder. I tried setting the folder permissions, etc, but no luck. Your direct download files seem to have done the trick.

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