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1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:55 am
by rmannyb
Have latest Audacity Beta and using latest version of Mac OS X 10.6.x. Have been going nuts trying to reduce whistling on recordings caused by a sibiliant S so downloaded Spitfish de-esser.

Spitfish has two versions, a VST file version and a AU version - a component file.

--First tried downloading the component file and placing it in the appropriate component directory. Did not show up as a plug-in when Audacity was launched.
--Then tried taking the three (Blockfish, Spitfish, Floorfish) VST files and put them into the system library>plug-ins>vst directory. Checked the appropriate "re-scan" block under effects in the Audacity properties tab - no luck.
--Then tried taking the three (Blockfish, Spitfish, Floorfish) VST files and put them into both the user library>plug-ins>vst directory. Checked the appropriate "re-scan" block under effects in the Audacity properties tab - no luck.
--Then tried taking the three (Blockfish, Spitfish, Floorfish) VST files and put them into both the user AND system library>plug-ins>vst directories. Checked the appropriate "re-scan" block under effects in the Audacity properties tab - no luck.
--Finally, repeated the last three combination of steps with the VST files but also added the VST Enabler file . Again - no luck.

Would appreciate any suggestions.

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:59 am
by Leland
These effects are PPC only. Since your on an Intel box, they will not work.

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:47 pm
by steve
Leland wrote:These effects are PPC only. Since your on an Intel box, they will not work.
Leland, could you give a bit more information about what effects can be expected to work on an Intel Mac and which ones can't.
(If this is already documented, a link will be fine, but I've not been able to find it in the Audacity documentation).

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:20 pm
by rmannyb
Guess I'm more confused now. At http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.p ... &subItem=5 Spitfish advertises that it has both AU and VST support for Mac OS X. Not True?

Steve: I have several audio vocals that have a high pitch "whistle" occurring on leading "S" sounds - I've heard it referred to as the sibilant S effect. the Spitfish product at link above is advertised to be able to pinpoint and reduce this effect. It's called the Spitfish De-esser. There's another product out there "Vox Doctor II" for PC, but haven't had any success with that even on a PC. So I'm back at the Mac trying to get Spitfish to work but so far not having great deal of success.

Thanks for responses.

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:24 pm
by steve
The SpitFish De-esser does work on Audacity 1.3 on Windows.
I don't know about Macs and was hoping that Leland could fill in some detail.
I''ll ask if any of the Mac guys can drop in and advise about using the AU version of the effect.

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:59 pm
by Leland
steve wrote:
Leland wrote:These effects are PPC only. Since your on an Intel box, they will not work.
Leland, could you give a bit more information about what effects can be expected to work on an Intel Mac and which ones can't.
(If this is already documented, a link will be fine, but I've not been able to find it in the Audacity documentation).
I don't know if it's doc'd anywhere. I just checked the effects and they were PPC only. Since he said he was on 10.6, that means he"s running on Intel and the only way he can use PPC effects is to run Audacity under Rosetta...not the best option.

I used the "file" command In a Terminal to find out if the effects had Intel support, bit you can right click the effect in Finder and select Get Info.

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:31 pm
by billw58
Leland wrote: I don't know if it's doc'd anywhere. I just checked the effects and they were PPC only. Since he said he was on 10.6, that means he"s running on Intel and the only way he can use PPC effects is to run Audacity under Rosetta...not the best option.

I used the "file" command In a Terminal to find out if the effects had Intel support, bit you can right click the effect in Finder and select Get Info.
I tried the file command on a VST effect and got this (on my PPC 10.5.8 machine):

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Bills-G5-7:~ Bill$ file -k /Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst: directory
Get Info identifies it as a directory.

-- Bill

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:49 pm
by Leland
billw58 wrote:
Leland wrote: I don't know if it's doc'd anywhere. I just checked the effects and they were PPC only. Since he said he was on 10.6, that means he"s running on Intel and the only way he can use PPC effects is to run Audacity under Rosetta...not the best option.

I used the "file" command In a Terminal to find out if the effects had Intel support, bit you can right click the effect in Finder and select Get Info.
I tried the file command on a VST effect and got this (on my PPC 10.5.8 machine):

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Bills-G5-7:~ Bill$ file -k /Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst: directory
Get Info identifies it as a directory.

-- Bill
Sorry, I was on the train when I sent that response and am still not home yet, but try drilling down in the the package (Finder -> View Package Contents) or if in Terminal, try this:

file /Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst/Contents/MacOS/*

Re: 1.3.x (Beta) with Mac OS X and Spitfish De-esser

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:19 pm
by billw58
Perfect!

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Bills-G5-7:~ Bill$ file /Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst/Contents/MacOS/LFX-1310 
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst/Contents/MacOS/LFX-1310: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst/Contents/MacOS/LFX-1310 (for architecture i386):	Mach-O bundle i386
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/LFX-1310.vst/Contents/MacOS/LFX-1310 (for architecture ppc):	Mach-O bundle ppc
or

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Bills-G5-7:~ Bill$ file /Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/Blue Cat/VST/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo).vst/Contents/MacOS/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo) 
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/Blue Cat/VST/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo).vst/Contents/MacOS/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo): Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/Blue Cat/VST/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo).vst/Contents/MacOS/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo) (for architecture i386):	Mach-O dynamically linked shared library i386
/Volumes/Audio Disc/Audio Components/Blue Cat/VST/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo).vst/Contents/MacOS/Blue Cat Chorus VST(Stereo) (for architecture ppc7400):	Mach-O dynamically linked shared library ppc
Nice trick. I'll have to remember that.

-- Bill