Audacity Forum

Gale Andrews wrote:

Leland wrote:So, just how pervasive is this permissions problem? Maybe we should just go ahead and change to install in /Library/Application Support/audacity.
Leland

As pervasive as OS X 10.6.x which is the main source of the problem. Probably about 25 reports a month, casting around the ones I get directly, the ones to [email protected] and the Forum and -users list. but including vague reports which could equally be the "competing libraries" problem. So numbers should go down for that reason in 1.3.13.

You mentioned an "/opt" folder before, maybe that would be less prone to interference than /Library/Application Support/audacity ?

The reason I mention the /Library... fella is because that's more "OSX" "look and feel" whereas the /opt directory is more of a Unix thing, just like /usr/local. Might be Apple would feel in a future release that /opt is needs to be fiddled with like /usr/local. But, they would probably leave /Library/Application Support alone.

Leland

Looks like Apple wasn't satisfied with monkeying around with permissions in Snow Leopard. Now they're going to do some more in Lion:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11 ... sions.html

Although this one is a good idea.

Leland wrote:Now they're going to do some more in Lion:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11 ... sions.html

I would think they will get round fairly soon then to requiring root permission for /usr/local/lib. So if you're resigned to moving the libs I'd say go for ~/Library/Application Support/audacity or /Applications/Audacity_Libraries or similar.



Gale

Gale Andrews wrote:

Leland wrote:Now they're going to do some more in Lion:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11 ... sions.html

I would think they will get round fairly soon then to requiring root permission for /usr/local/lib. So if you're resigned to moving the libs I'd say go for ~/Library/Application Support/audacity or /Applications/Audacity_Libraries or similar.

Sounds good. This would be a good time to do it anyway if the supplied installers are going to be a newer version of FFmpeg. Sort of like it was planned that way.

I'll update the installer and add the new path to the search list. I'll have to leave the old one in too, but the new one will be first.

Maybe I'll make this part of the FFmpeg search rework...kill 2 squabs with one rock.

Gale Andrews wrote: I would think they will get round fairly soon then to requiring root permission for /usr/local/lib. So if you're resigned to moving the libs I'd say go for ~/Library/Application Support/audacity or /Applications/Audacity_Libraries or similar.

/Applications/Audacity_Libraries would be an odd thing to see on Mac. ~/Library/Application Support/audacity makes more sense to me.

-- Bill

billw58 wrote:

Gale Andrews wrote: I would think they will get round fairly soon then to requiring root permission for /usr/local/lib. So if you're resigned to moving the libs I'd say go for ~/Library/Application Support/audacity or /Applications/Audacity_Libraries or similar.

/Applications/Audacity_Libraries would be an odd thing to see on Mac. ~/Library/Application Support/audacity makes more sense to me.

-- Bill

Agreed, but how bout /Library/Application Support/audacity instead? That would make it a system-wide install instead of user specific. But, then again, I sort of like the idea of a user specific install. Definitely won't have any issues then.

Lealnd

Leland wrote:

billw58 wrote:

Gale Andrews wrote: I would think they will get round fairly soon then to requiring root permission for /usr/local/lib. So if you're resigned to moving the libs I'd say go for ~/Library/Application Support/audacity or /Applications/Audacity_Libraries or similar.

/Applications/Audacity_Libraries would be an odd thing to see on Mac. ~/Library/Application Support/audacity makes more sense to me.

-- Bill

Agreed, but how bout /Library/Application Support/audacity instead? That would make it a system-wide install instead of user specific. But, then again, I sort of like the idea of a user specific install. Definitely won't have any issues then.

The more I think about it, the more I like the user specific "~/Library/Application Support/audacity" directory. Besides, it's already being used for the stuff like audacity.cfg, plugins.cfg, presets, etc.

Leland,

Going back to where we discussed this by e-mail, I think we both had some reservations about using the HOME directory. On balance I don't think you can ask different members of the same family to install their own version of LAME and FFmpeg - it's onerous enough already even when it works.

Although /Applications/Audacity_Libraries looks odd, putting dylib files in amongst text configuration files is also a bit odd.

So how about /Library/Application Support/audacity/libs ?





Gale

Gale Andrews wrote:Leland,

Going back to where we discussed this by e-mail, I think we both had some reservations about using the HOME directory. On balance I don't think you can ask different members of the same family to install their own version of LAME and FFmpeg - it's onerous enough already even when it works.

Good point. I forget that families may have different user accounts on a machine as its only my wife and myself and she better keep her grubby paws off my machines.

Although /Applications/Audacity_Libraries looks odd, putting dylib files in amongst text configuration files is also a bit odd.

So how about /Library/Application Support/audacity/libs ?

Sounds good. I'll make it so.

Leland

Omg i downloaded your installer, tried to do everything, edited by hand your .cfg, and still i get "not found" without any error or clue about what is wrong. Moved everything everywhere, changed permissions... it just does not work. You should really edit the wiki at least, it would save other people's hours until you make it working. Btw, ~/Library/Application Support is the right folder, i can't see why you should tamper with system directories to install a sound editor.