1.3X always crashes

[steve]

the thing is if vst plugins are causing making Audacity crash why not have an option to ignore plugins before it instals or some kind of verifier ?

That is exactly what is being worked on now. I think the Audacity developers underestimated how much bad code is in some VSTs that are in circulation, and it just needs one bad VST that writes to an illegal memory address to make Audacity throw a wobbly. There is a thread on the developers mailing list about this http://n2.nabble.com/VST-Effects-and-Au ... l#a3355137

I know that they want to support as many VST effects as possible, but there are always going to be some that cause problems, so I'm hoping that they get this VST validating thing into Audacity pretty soon.

In the mean time - have you tried Audacity 1.3.7 on that machine? You can download it from the sourceforge site. (1.3.7 had no VST support built in, so assuming the problem is with VSTs, backdating to 1.3.7 should work for now).

[topazuk]

im not sure it is plugins tbh.. all versions past 1.26 crash with the Fatal Error message I posted

the thing is if vst plugins are causing making Audacity crash why not have an option to ignore plugins before it instals or some kind of verifier ?

That is exactly what is being worked on now. I think the Audacity developers underestimated how much bad code is in some VSTs that are in circulation, and it just needs one bad VST that writes to an illegal memory address to make Audacity throw a wobbly. There is a thread on the developers mailing list about this http://n2.nabble.com/VST-Effects-and-Au ... l#a3355137

I know that they want to support as many VST effects as possible, but there are always going to be some that cause problems, so I'm hoping that they get this VST validating thing into Audacity pretty soon.

In the mean time - have you tried Audacity 1.3.7 on that machine? You can download it from the sourceforge site. (1.3.7 had no VST support built in, so assuming the problem is with VSTs, backdating to 1.3.7 should work for now).

[kozikowski]

<<<im not sure it is plugins>>>

It doesn't have to be obvious. A whole raft of software sound managers showed up with my sound capture program and created grief for several days until I tracked it down. The old version of the program didn't have them. It took a note to the programmers to find them all.

Koz

[kozikowski]

you may need to replace your Audacity.

http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 37&t=11534

Koz

[topazuk]

the reason I do not think it is a plugin issue as I have renamed, removed, moved to another drive but I still crash.

<<<im not sure it is plugins>>>

It doesn't have to be obvious. A whole raft of software sound managers showed up with my sound capture program and created grief for several days until I tracked it down. The old version of the program didn't have them. It took a note to the programmers to find them all.

Koz

[steve]

im not sure it is plugins tbh.. all versions past 1.26 crash with the Fatal Error message I posted

Could you give a list of which ones that you've tried give then problem and which ones don't.

I'm hoping that you are prepared to work with us on this - it's not often that we see computers that Audacity does not run on - in the vast majority of cases it is some kind of set-up problem, so if we have a genuine compatibility issue it would be great if we could find out exactly what the problem is. I realise that this does nothing for your music production, but you may be in a position to help the developers to locate and fix some hard to find bug (which koz and myself are not yet able to reproduce)

[topazuk]

Hi Steve

I have tried
1.3.0
1.3.2
1.3.4
1.3.7
1.3.8
and the latest nightly build.

they all give the same Fatal Error on start.

Could you give a list of which ones that you've tried give then problem and which ones don't.

I'm hoping that you are prepared to work with us on this - it's not often that we see computers that Audacity does not run on - in the vast majority of cases it is some kind of set-up problem, so if we have a genuine compatibility issue it would be great if we could find out exactly what the problem is. I realise that this does nothing for your music production, but you may be in a position to help the developers to locate and fix some hard to find bug (which koz and myself are not yet able to reproduce)

[george13]

Hi,

The crash log you posted indicates that a vst-plugin called Bandstand.Synth caused the crash. Could you maybe try to move that plugin aside?

The vst plug-ins should be under /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST or YourHomeDirectory/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST.

[topazuk]

Hi, as stated in previous posts I had removed all plugins, renamed the dirs, even moved all plugin directorys to an external drive,

Hi,

The crash log you posted indicates that a vst-plugin called Bandstand.Synth caused the crash. Could you maybe try to move that plugin aside?

The vst plug-ins should be under /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST or YourHomeDirectory/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST.

[george13]

Oh, sorry, i missed that. But then i don't understand why you get the same crash still. Could you post the crash log again? (with the plug-ins removed).

Also, i see a potential problem with the latest nightly build. There's a new preference for disabling/enabling plug-ins. But the default seems to be to enable all kinds of plug-ins (AU, vst, ladspa, etc.). But what if one of those causes Audacity to crash at start-up? You never get to change this preference. So in my opinion all binary plug-ins should be disabled by default.