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Producing audio CDs which work universally.????

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:38 pm
by devonlu
I am posting this in a couple of places around the net... And before I start I want to say that this is relating to my theatre group HERE producing audio CDs of content of which we own ALL the copyrights; because I posted this a bit before Christmas online and recieved a load of hate mail accusing me of looking to pirate CDs *headdesk*.This absolutely NOT the case. I got really upset and pulled the forum posts, but have decided to try again.

We would like to produce a couple of audio CDs, one of some seashanties about our local town which we wrote, and one as a dramatised audio play of our next show, as its recieving huge amounts of interest. Now we (even if we put our personal money in as well as totally wiping out the group bank account) do not literally own enough money to approach a recording studio or have a print-run of several thousand CDs run off at any one time, we are looking at more like 50 at a go. We are able to record good audio ourselves, but need to produce the CDs.

Naturally we thought about simply recording discs at home and printing labels, but two of us, doing a test of the shanties we already have recorded, have found that while our CDs produced on home PCs work fine on some machines, they dont work, for example, in three poeples car stereos, or on the theatre company CD player - all of which only play "bought" CDs.

While this doesnt stop us having MP3s for sale online, we have several events from March onwards where we have been specifically asked to sell CD recordings of the play and the songs; mainly for older people who dont use computers much - several have asked and when I offered an MP3, didnt understand what an MP3 was even!

What is the difference (coding or playability wise) of "bought" CDs as opposed to home-produced ones, and is there a program or kind of CD which we would be able to get, to record CDs which work universally? The last thing we want to do is sell CDs which only work in some places. Or is there a low-cost production place in the UK where we can get them made in short / cheap runs?

Please note all facilities need to be UK-relevant since obviously thats where we are.

Re: Producing audio CDs which work universally.????

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:47 pm
by waxcylinder
If you export from Audacity 44.1 kHz, 16-bit, PCM stereo WAVs - this is (part of) the Red Book standard for CDs

and if you burn these WAVs to a good quality CD-R (NOT a CD-RW)

then these CDs should play in all CD players (except those with a dodgy laser).

See this tutorial from the 1.3 manual: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Burn ... es_to_a_CD

This tutorial will be useful too: http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Spli ... ate_tracks

But I would work with Audacity set to 32-bit float 44.1 kHz (which happens to be its default settings OOTB) - and then use Audacty to downsample automatically on export to 16-bit (and I would recommend using triangle or shaped dithering - I personally use triangular).


BTW when you talk about "printing labels" I hope that you are meaning the inserts for the jewel boxes and that you are not thinking of sticking sticky label on the CD - than can be very bad for CD players. Much better to buy the discs that can be printed on directly.


WC

Re: Producing audio CDs which work universally.????

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:43 pm
by devonlu
okies, thanks for that a lot :). we were thinking of printing labels for CDs, I didnt know it was bad for players. . I have an HP home printer, am I able to print onto CDs using that? I saw your message and asked at the print-shop in down but the guy didnt know.

Re: Producing audio CDs which work universally.????

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:43 pm
by kozikowski
The magic phrase is Music CD instead of Data CD. Music CD is a special music format that the CD player in your car will recognize. It takes Music CD Authoring Software like iTunes or newer Windows Media or others.

Smaller laptop computers hate sticky labels. The first time you pull one of those into your compact laptop computer, it has a really good chance of living in there for a very long time.

Koz

Re: Producing audio CDs which work universally.????

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:45 pm
by devonlu
we were burning music CDs not data CDs but the problems still occurred

Re: Producing audio CDs which work universally.????

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:46 pm
by Trebor
soundcloud and reverbNation are examples of websites you could use to distribute your music and publicise your group for free ...

http://soundcloud.com/painless-parker/c ... ors-lament

http://www.reverbnation.com/raylamontagne

Re: Producing audio CDs which work universally.????

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:49 pm
by kozikowski
You can buy blank disks so cheap they have a bad dye layer. Drop by an office supply store and by a short stack or package of Sony, TDK, Memorex or other brand disks and try that. Do not use disks labeled "Hi-Q."

Also, do not let your CD burner go full steam. If you have trouble talking on your cellphone for all the screaming noises your burner is making, it's probably going too fast. Burning speed numbers are chosen for their advertising potential, not their burning accuracy. Most software has a setting that will allow you to reduce the burning speed. Almost everybody finds a lower sweet spot.

Koz