Re: Mp3 download lame_enc.dll from untrusted source. Why?

Post by **kozikowski** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:07 pm

The actual Buanzo is the system administrator for the forum and the Audacity web site in Argentina.

He was accidentally on an internet Black List for a while there. He contacted the black list managers and got restored to normal. If your software is using an old, non-updated list, you may still have him as a dangerous source.

Koz

Post by **steve** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:19 pm

Due to the controversy around MP3 patent claims it is not possible for Audacity to host LAME. Fortunately Buanzo is able to offer free downloads to the many millions of Audacity users. The cost of hosting is partly covered by advertising on his web site. Occasionally third party advertisements (over which the webmaster has only limited control) may link to sites that are flagged as bad websites. If you follow the instructions for downloading you will not be visiting those adverts - just don't click on the adverts.

There is big bold text that says "Jump straight to LAME for Audacity Windows download"
When you click on that (or scroll down the page) there is a text link that says: Lame_v3.98.3_for_Audacity_on_Windows.exe
That's the link.

There was a related thread on this forum recently that you may wish to read: http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic ... 16&t=62687
By the way, Buanzo is not "some spanish kid". He's an internationally recognised Argentinian programmer.

Post by **steve** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:48 pm

strgg wrote:It might be better to OPEN SOURCE the code under GNU/GLP and put it on a free service like google code, sourceforge, etc.

There is an open source alternative to MP3 - Ogg Vorbis http://www.vorbis.com/

Audacity fully supports Ogg natively - no additional downloads required, it's built into Audacity.
Sadly Ogg is less well supported by commercial players, which is a shame as it is first rate and double blind listening test show it to be at least as good as any other lossy compression format.

There are many copyright and patent claims on MP3 encoding technology that mean it can never be totally free or GPL. That's why Audacity cannot include MP3 encoding as standard. Lame is there for those people that wish to use it, even though it is not open source. Personally I prefer to use open source software.

Lame is also available from a direct link (advert free) here: http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php? ... structions

Post by **steve** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:37 am

strgg wrote:sorry i did not explain clear enough. lame is open-source and i thought the port to audacity could also be open-sourced.

There's no problem with source code as far as I'm aware - the problems come as soon as you try distributing a compiled binary. Even Lame don't distribute Lame as a compiled binary http://lame.sourceforge.net/download.php because they don't want the heavyweight lawyers from the Land of the Free jumping on them.

strgg wrote:Would you vouch for the buanzo file?

It's the version that I use (on my Windows machine), along with all the Audacity developers as far as I'm aware.

strgg wrote:read a lot of great posts you made and consider your opinion as trustworthy (also since you are also a programmer and know the subject).

Thank you, though I'm not an Audacity developer. I can't program C++ for toffee (though I do a fair bit of Nyquist programming). I just help out on the support side.

Post by **kozikowski** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:24 am

Just a quick note. Post the link to the web site you think is ratty and unprofessional.
I can't escape the idea we're talking around each other.

Koz

Post by **steve** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:10 pm

kozikowski wrote:Just a quick note. Post the link to the web site you think is ratty and unprofessional.
I can't escape the idea we're talking around each other.

Link in the first post: http://lame1.buanzo.com.ar/

Gale Andrews · Post by **Gale Andrews** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:00 am

strgg wrote:At wireshark i get on a virual machine (wmware) an outbounding request from the audacity firstly happend after installing the file. I would like to know what is causing this.

What site is the request asking for?

strgg wrote:i found another link
http://www.gaclrecords.org.uk/software/lame_enc.dll
is that an older but still valide ressource?

It's actually lame 3.98.4, so more recent than the the dll available on the Buanzo site. Yes it is compatible with Audacity.

If testing goes OK there should be a LAME 3.99.3 installer for Windows available on the Buanzo site fairly soon.

And yes, you should trust Buanzo's site as far as the downloads are concerned. Always scan downloads to make sure. That's good advice wherever you download from.

And just to confuse you even more, I'm not a C++ programmer either.

Gale