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Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:49 am
by Rickenbacker
I'm actually using version 1.3, but that board seems to be slow as molasses...

Is it "Label track"?

I have several live recordings that I want to eventually put on disc. In live recordings, the songs often blend into each other. Is there a way for me to "mark" the beginning of each new song & keep them all during an Export?

Thx!

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:12 pm
by kozikowski
Yes. You put a Label (Control-B or Apple-B) at the beginning of each song you want as a separate selection. Then pick one of the Export Selections under Edit.

<<<I'm actually using version 1.3, but that board seems to be slow as molasses...>>>

It wouldn't be nearly as slow if you personally dropped in every so often to help. Remember, the forum has to ripple around the earth. Answers usually happen within about 12 hours. Sooner if you help write them.

Koz

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:37 pm
by Rickenbacker
kozikowski wrote:Yes. You put a Label (Control-B or Apple-B) at the beginning of each song you want as a separate selection. Then pick one of the Export Selections under Edit.
Thanks for the reply.
I did that & then it exported all the songs separately. =/

The recordings I have are all live concerts. What I'm trying to do is simply see each track listed when I load it into a player after I burn them to a disc. The way you can w/ store-bought cds.

<<<It wouldn't be nearly as slow if you personally dropped in every so often to help. Remember, the forum has to ripple around the earth. Answers usually happen within about 12 hours. Sooner if you help write them.>>>
I can't help if I can barely figure it out myself.

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:10 pm
by kozikowski
<<<I did that & then it exported all the songs separately. =/ >>>

Right. Then you "author" your Music CD with a program that lets you set the spacing between songs to zero. You may still get a minor hit between songs, but for the most part, it should just play straight through--assuming the concert is less than 80 minutes.

<<<The way you can w/ store-bought cds.>>>

Red Book Compact Disk (your music CD) doesn't support music titles. There are no titles on the disk. What normally happens is the CD player in your computer goes onto the internet and figures it all out from GraceNote or one of the other services.

http://www.askdavetaylor.com/itunes_not ... ng_cd.html

Koz

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:15 pm
by kozikowski
<<<I can't help if I can barely figure it out myself.>>>

I bet you know more than some of our posters. The whole range of users arrive with questions and some of them have no idea what kind of computer they have. Trust me there is nothing as educational as trying to explain to somebody else how their computer works.

You're on a Windows machine, right? How do you know? Where do you click that tells you what version of Windows you have? I have personally answered that question several times. (Right Click My Computer > Properties.)

Sometimes it's that easy.

Koz

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:43 pm
by Rickenbacker
kozikowski wrote:<<<I did that & then it exported all the songs separately. =/ >>>

<<<Then you "author" your Music CD with a program that lets you set the spacing between songs to zero. You may still get a minor hit between songs, but for the most part, it should just play straight through--assuming the concert is less than 80 minutes.>>>
Koz

Damn- seems that with all Audacity can do, I thought just adding names to the songs & having the whole thing Export as a whole would be fairly simple.

So wait- I'll have to use a separate program to do that? Could I use Audacity to reassemble & "stitch" the show together as one?

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:43 pm
by kozikowski
<<<Damn- seems that with all Audacity can do, I thought just adding names to the songs & having the whole thing Export as a whole would be fairly simple. >>>

Everybody runs into this problem. When they designed the Music CD there was no standard compression and the only way they could fit 80 minutes of music on one shiny disk was to leave parts off. CDDA (Compact Disk Digital Audio format) is basically WAV with a lot of the formatting and titles left out. That's why you can't just copy a music selection from a Music CD. You have to "rip" it off with CDEX or other audio program that knows how to adjust for the differences.

MP3 compression format has the ability and space to record music and performance information.

<<<So wait- I'll have to use a separate program to do that? Could I use Audacity to reassemble & "stitch" the show together as one? >>>

I sense [pressing fingers to forehead] that you may have made another common mistake. When you finish playing a vinyl disk into Audacity, immediately Export As WAV to get a one single digital master. Then you open up that and do all your special effects and surgery. If you mess up, you still have that one master capture WAV file to go back to. I also make protection copies of these master files and lock them in the closet.

Audacity does not Save sound files.

Yes, you can copy and paste the whole album back together by opening up multiple work windows and timelines.

Koz

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:01 am
by Rickenbacker
kozikowski wrote:

<<<MP3 compression format has the ability and space to record music and performance information.

I sense [pressing fingers to forehead] that you may have made another common mistake. When you finish playing a vinyl disk into Audacity, immediately Export As WAV to get a one single digital master. Then you open up that and do all your special effects and surgery>>>
Koz
Ok, I'm still trying to get this-- I'm pretty sure I have an MP3 & a WAV version of one show I recorded & saved.
Now what? So I'm using the the WAV to do what I'm trying to do?

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:07 am
by kozikowski
<<<I have several live recordings that I want to eventually put on disc.>>>

What I'm trying to 'splain is that you can't do that. You can put the music on a Music CD, but you can't put the song titles on there. If you completely disconnect your computer from the internet and put a commercial Music CD in that you borrowed from your mum, the computer will play the music, but the title will not say LeAnn Rimes "Blue" Curb Records 1996. It will say "Track 01."

If you plug your internet connection back in and import the CD, then it will say LeAnn Rimes "Blue" Curb Records 1996 because the computer looked it up in a large on-line Commercial Music CD database. It compares the song length and song order and a bunch of other things to find out the titles. It can get it wrong. I have one CD that the computer thinks is something else.

So the choices are just to create the Music CD without the titles, or create a non-music CD -- a data CD with MP3 files on it. Those do carry song information, but that type of disk will probably not play at your mum's house on her older CD player. My older truck will not play them.

Koz

Re: Ok- what's the function that "marks" songs called??

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:16 pm
by steve
There are a couple of tutorials about how to record songs for CDs on the Audacity wiki. They cover each step from making the recording, to splitting tracks so that they will appear on your CD as individual tracks rather than just one long one.
See here: http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tutorials

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