Audacity v1.3.12-beta Missing Sources

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Audacity v1.3.12-beta Missing Sources

Post by Nordland » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:23 pm

Good Evening,

Audacity 1.3.12 beta on Windows 7 64-bit. Sound is an onboard Realtek device.

It works, but:

In the drop-down box near the top right which in other incarnations of Audacity would list the mixers, there is only [Master]. and [Master] only, Line-In, Mic, What-You-Hear etc are not available to Audacity.

I have to go into the sound manager and select Mic there to record from an external source.

I have to go into the sound manager and select Stereo-Mix then go into Audacity Edit/Prefs/Devices to select MS Sound Mapper to record from the computer/system/streamed radio etc.

This is much more cumbersome than it is on XP, where all the sound sources are in a drop-down menu and require no adjustments to the computer sound system.

Can it be fixed?

Regards, Nordland.

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Re: Audacity v1.3.12-beta Missing Sources

Post by Gale Andrews » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:55 pm

Nordland wrote:Audacity 1.3.12 beta on Windows 7 64-bit. Sound is an onboard Realtek device.

In the drop-down box near the top right which in other incarnations of Audacity would list the mixers, there is only [Master]. and [Master] only, Line-In, Mic, What-You-Hear etc are not available to Audacity.

I have to go into the sound manager and select Mic there to record from an external source.

I have to go into the sound manager and select Stereo-Mix then go into Audacity Edit/Prefs/Devices to select MS Sound Mapper to record from the computer/system/streamed radio etc.

This is much more cumbersome than it is on XP, where all the sound sources are in a drop-down menu and require no adjustments to the computer sound system.
It is an agreed bug that because Windows Vista and 7 now present inputs (and outputs) as separate audio devices, the inputs must be chosen in Preferences and cannot be shown in the Mixer Toolbar selector.

Also Vista and 7 almost always only enable mic in the Control Panel, which means the user has to enable all the inputs they want there before Audacity or any other software will see them. That isn't Audacity's problem.

Even in XP, if you chose to select Sound Mapper in the Audacity Mixer Toolbar and wanted to change the input, you would have to change the input in the Control Panel, because the point of the Sound Mapper choice is to map to the current system device. If you enable all the inputs you need in Sound in the Control Panel, then you can choose them explictly in Audacity Preferences (for example "Stereo Mix - Realtek") without going back to the Control Panel, assuming the sound device drivers are working correctly.

Also to avoid going into Preferences you can click View > Toolbars > Device Toolbar and choose the inputs and outputs there.



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Re: Audacity v1.3.12-beta Missing Sources

Post by Nordland » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:20 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:
Nordland wrote:Audacity 1.3.12 beta on Windows 7 64-bit. Sound is an onboard Realtek device.

In the drop-down box near the top right which in other incarnations of Audacity would list the mixers, there is only [Master]. and [Master] only, Line-In, Mic, What-You-Hear etc are not available to Audacity.

I have to go into the sound manager and select Mic there to record from an external source.

I have to go into the sound manager and select Stereo-Mix then go into Audacity Edit/Prefs/Devices to select MS Sound Mapper to record from the computer/system/streamed radio etc.

This is much more cumbersome than it is on XP, where all the sound sources are in a drop-down menu and require no adjustments to the computer sound system.
It is an agreed bug that because Windows Vista and 7 now present inputs (and outputs) as separate audio devices, the inputs must be chosen in Preferences and cannot be shown in the Mixer Toolbar selector.

Also Vista and 7 almost always only enable mic in the Control Panel, which means the user has to enable all the inputs they want there before Audacity or any other software will see them. That isn't Audacity's problem.

Even in XP, if you chose to select Sound Mapper in the Audacity Mixer Toolbar and wanted to change the input, you would have to change the input in the Control Panel, because the point of the Sound Mapper choice is to map to the current system device. If you enable all the inputs you need in Sound in the Control Panel, then you can choose them explictly in Audacity Preferences (for example "Stereo Mix - Realtek") without going back to the Control Panel, assuming the sound device drivers are working correctly.

Also to avoid going into Preferences you can click View > Toolbars > Device Toolbar and choose the inputs and outputs there.

Gale
Thank you Gale, I'll look into it.

Regards,

Jim

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