Opening song file-sluggish

When I attempt to open a song file teh search for the song is really, really slow. I can’t figure out what’s going on here, but it’s really frustrating to open a file just to wait and wait and wait.
So help me please!
This is in v 2.0.6 of Audacity coming from the DMG running on a Mac using OS v 10.10.2.

teh search for the song is really, really slow.

The search, or you know where the file is and it’s slow opening?

When you open a large sound file, Audacity has to blast free drivespace for production “elbow room” and multiple UNDO layers. Also, if you open an MP3, Audacity has to decompress it to high quality, uncompressed. A highly compressed, tiny MP3 may turn out to be huge.

Go (upper menu bar) > Computer. Click your hard drive > Command-I (info).

Read Capacity and Available.

Audacity doesn’t yet support Yosemite.

Koz

“The search, or you know where the file is and it’s slow opening?”

I do know where the file is (and so does Audacity.) So when I said the “search” it’s not that I perform a search it’s more that Audacity is painfully slow in scrolling through the folder where it knows the song files exists.

“Audacity doesn’t yet support Yosemite.”

I didn’t know that about not supporting Yosemite yet. That could be the problem now, but as I recall (and my recollection is not a sure thing by any means) this was happening well before Yosemite came out-I just didn’t need to deal with it a whole lot back then.

“Read Capacity and Available.”

There is plenty of available capacity. (I can’t tell from what you wrote if you’re saying that this could be the problem or not.)

There is plenty of available capacity.

Numbers are good. Sometimes our versions of “plenty” are different.

So you point to a folder with a lot of files in it and tell Audacity to scroll down, and then wait…and wait…

Go > Utilities > Activity Monitor. Does anything float to the top while you’re doing this?

I have a large Mac program that can get “stuck” and slowly soak up all available processing cycles. The System gets very sluggish. Then the Mac fan comes on, etc.

I just didn’t need to deal with it a whole lot back then.

But now that you’re reading audiobooks…

Koz

So what you’re saying is that 387 Gb might not be enough free space? Sounds unlikely, but, obviously, I don’t know nearly enough about this.

Perhaps i’m taking this too literally, but audiobooks aren’t involved here just songs.


is there any word about when Audacity will support Yosemite. I know they’re often “late to the party”, but this is fairly ridiculous!

So what you’re saying is that 387 Gb might not be enough free space?

No, I’m saying we can’t assume you’re computer literate. We’ve been led down the garden path too many times to take anything for granted. The elves are sprayed across nine time zones and have to build your system in our imaginations to make this work. You get good at seeing holes in the construction.

I have 100MB left. Surely that’s enough.
It’s not, and don’t call me Shirley.

is there any word about when Audacity will support Yosemite.

The next version is a major upgrade and should be Yosemite cognizant.

Koz

How did that Activity Monitor go?
Koz

I’ve uploaded a screen shot
Screen Shot 2015-02-06 at 11.49.17 PM.png
of the activities window looking at Memory for the folder that contains the song files (I just supposed that was what you wanted me to look at, but if it was something different, please, be specific.)

But, in case you can’t view that the first two entries were kernal_task (95 threads) and iTunes (25 threads)

BTW thanks for looking at this for me and being patient about it.

If you post enough times, the forum moderation will go away and your posts will appear immediately.

Try CPU activity.

Koz

OK here you go-what do you see?
Screen Shot 2015-02-07 at 9.26.08 AM.png

@Mrkil1o1, can you confirm that is what’s happening, and/or describe in full detail?

Are you using File > Open… or File > Import > Audio… in Audacity?

Is it any quicker if you scroll in Finder then drag the file into Audacity from there?


Gale

When I go to make an edit on a track the program opens just as I would expect it to do. However, when I try to select a song file from the list there it’s excruciatingly slow to scroll to that file. If I wait around long enough (and we’re talking minutes) for a file to open the editing itself is fast and smooth.

Yes I am.

Yes it is much faster to locate stuff via the finder/folder there.

It was suggested earlier that this might be a case of the program not supporting Yosemite yet-is that what’s happening?
If that is a yes then I’m guilty of pulling the trigger too fast.

I can’t reproduce anything like that on Yosemite using 2.0.6 or 2.1.0-alpha, sorry.

If you scroll through other folders than iTunes, does it make any difference?

Does it make any difference if you disconnect that “Lawrence’” device?

Apparently not - at least in any generally reproducible way.

Have you tried scrolling through Mac file open dialogues in other applications, like TextEdit or GarageBand?


Gale

When I go to make an edit on a track the program opens just as I would expect it to do. However, when I try to select a song file from the list there it’s excruciatingly slow to scroll to that file. If I wait around long enough (and we’re talking minutes) for a file to open the editing itself is fast and smooth.

Yes I am.

Well then it’s quite possible that I should just be carted off to the looney bin! l,l,l

I don’t have the same problem there.



Apparently not - at least in any generally reproducible way.

I’ve been suing Logic all day with no hiccups



I assume you meant “using”.

Perhaps if you have any non-Apple apps, try File > Open and scrolling through iTunes folders in those apps. It’s possible you may find the same issue which does not occur in Apple apps.

I don’t have a large iTunes folder to test it, but see if there is some device search or sync setting in iTunes that you could turn off. Some of these search results may help: itunes slow scroll folders - Google Zoeken.


Gale

I will check on all of this when I return in a few hours.

Unfortunately I don’t have any other appropriate programs that are not from Apple i can use to test this out.

Any other suggestions?

And BTW thank you for sticking with me on this.

This is off-topic, but I think it would help all of us if I explain how “quoting” works in the forum software.

Overview:
The forum software uses “tags” around text to give it particular types of emphasis.
These “tags” are in the form of text within square brackets.
Tags are always in pairs - an “opening tag” at the beginning and a “closing tag” at the end. The closing tag is the same as the opening tag except that it has a forward slash “/” immediately after the first bracket.
The forum software supports tags for:
bold, italic, underscore as well as for “quoting”

When you type a message in the message composing box, the tags look like this:

[b]bold[/b]
[i]italic[/i]
[u]underscore[/u]
[quote]quote[/quote]

There are also tags for making lists, inserting links, inserting code, inserting images, changing the text size and changing the text colour but we’ll leave those for now.


To quote an entire post:
You should only do this when you want to quote a short post (so as to give clear context to your reply).
Click on the “QUOTE” button in the top right corner of the post that you want to quote (rather than the usual “REPLY” button).
This will open a new message box containing the quoted message.
You can then type your reply below the quoted message.

To quote a comment from another post:
Start your post in the usual way (click on the “REPLY” button.
Then scroll to the post that you want to quote.
Select (highlight with your mouse) the sentence that you wish to quote, then click the “QUOTE” button in the top right corner of that post.

Example:
To quote your sentence “Any other suggestions?”, I will scroll to your previous post, select the words “Any other suggestions?”, and then click the "QUOTE! button in the top right hand corner of that post.
The forum will then copy that text into my message (at the current cursor position, and it will look something like this in my message:
[quote_=“Mrkil1o1”]Any other suggestions?[/_quote]

After I have posted the message, the forum will display that like this:

Then you could install such applications, for example

http://www.nch.com.au/components/wavepadmaci.zip

This would help verify if the issue is confined to Audacity or not.

Beyond that, have you followed up all the links in the search result itunes slow scroll folders - Google Zoeken I posted? I think that’s what you have to do in a case like this. The issue does appear to be something specific to iTunes, at least in the sense that I can scroll quickly in Audacity through large numbers of non-iTunes folders.


Gale

I, apparently, missed that one, but I’ll check it out now and download at least one of those other programs you specified and see what comes of that and get back to you soon.