Dear community,
I have a question regarding Metadata preservation during burning .wav files with metadata (edited in foobar2009) onto a cd.
I produced some music in FL Studio 11 and I have exported my projects to .wav files.
I intended to make a couple physical copies of this project and therefore I wanted to edit the metadata of my .wav files, so people could see the info about each song when they play it in their car or on their pc as well (in their CD/DVD-ROMs). Then I found out that one does not simply edit metadata of .wav files, so I read some info about it on the INTERNET. Some folks said that if I download foobar2009, I will be able to somehow edit the metadata of my .wav files.
So I did it and I then I used AnyBurn software to burn those edited .wav files on a cd. But when I put it in my CD-ROM and the Windows Media Player (WMP) or iTunes open, in the list it says only:
Track01
Track02
and so on.
Since this was kinda strange to me, because I do not really understand this subject as I would like to, I decided to check out a few original audio CDs I had at home.
First I tried 2 CDs made by some local (Prague, Czech Republic) artists. In the WMP’s list there was only Track01, Track02… and so on as well as with the CD I made.
Then I inserted Eminem’s Encore which I found in my drawer. When the WMP opened, the list actually was made of “Name of the Artist - Name of the song” pattern.
Conclusion:
I do not know in which format or with what software was the Eminem’s - Encore burned/exported.
If any of you guys could help me, I would be really thankful.
Thanks in advance for any answer.
Redbook Audio CDs don’t contain anything but sound. They don’t even have song titles. If you play a CD in a non-internet connected player, the songs will look like track-01, track-02, etc.
There are marginally standard CDs. There is a standard-ish version with text tracks, but they might not play music in your mum’s Buick.
You can certainly create a Data CD. That is perfectly ISO standard and you can put whatever you want on those. Those are shiny, round hard drives. But they won’t play music in Lori, my lorry (truck).
WAV (Microsoft) is not a good format for lush, abundant metadata. I believe that was one of the reasons Broadcast WAV was developed. Basic format was OK and widely supported, but the metadata sucked.
Koz
Thanks Koz for your input. Im in your internet-debt.
So please, let me sum it up if to test if I understood you correctly.
Basically, if I want to make an Audio CD that shows the name of the artist & song, Im risking that people wont be able to play it in their cars / HI-FI towers and so on?
I just want to make it as much accessible as I can (so I would rather lose the metadata and be sure that people can play it anywhere they want), so I guess, I’ll just leave out the metadata for the physical copies, right?
Also, what other lossless format would you chose for burning onto a CD with metadata? But if I understand it correctly, there is no way a different format or a different burning software could help my situation, because its about the CDs, right?
Thanks in advance.
Audacity default high quality Export format is 44100, 16-bit, Stereo which happens to be the format of the sound on an Audio CD. It’s a straight-across transfer, no gains, no losses.
When they made the CD format, they were competing with the golden ears and their top quality vinyl players, so they pushed the sound quality up as high as they could and still smash it all onto the disk. It’s not even sound files so they didn’t have to include an operating system which would take up too much room. That’s why when you take music from a CD, you have to “Rip” it with special software. It’s not a straight file copy job. Some Macs make it look like that by running a ripper in the background and just not telling you it’s doing it.
Yes, to get unquestioned compatibility, you should stick to the basic Audio CD format. Even then, some home-burned CDs can have problems. Back when this was really popular, people would post about getting “good burns” only at certain burning speeds but not others.
“Oddly, X4 fails repeatedly, but X6 works a treat!”
I have a portable CD player that won’t play anything. If my disk will play in that, it should play anywhere. So far that’s worked out. At work, we had a similar DVD player. It was a pain in the butt, but if your disk played in that, you were good to go.
And all this complicated by crappy blanks. The top quality CD manufacturing plant on earth was near the Fukushima melt-down. It never started again.
“Oh, No.”
Baymax
Koz
Thank you very much Koz, I hope that I now understand the matter as much as I need to for what I want to do.
I appreciate your time & input! Bless you m8! 