Hidden Balance & Volume sliders move when I click to select a track

Audacity 3 Help Forum Windows
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Hi,

I use Audacity 3.7.7 on Windows 11, but I had already noticed that before: I was wondering why some of my tracks had weird balances or volumes without any action from me.

And I noticed that my volume and balance sliders are moving when I click on a track even though they are hidden.

Steps to reproduce:

  • Reduce the height of a track until the balance slider just disappears
  • Click on the imaginary position of the hidden slider to move it left or right
  • Increase the height of the track until the balance slider reappears
  • Notice that the slider has moved although it was hidden

The same for the volume slider.

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I can’t reproduce this with 3.7.7 on W11

Peter

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Thanks for testing Peter. I have the same behaviour on another computer on W10.

I made screenshots:

1 - Centered track, hiding balance slider

2 - Move the mouse on the hidden slider (I can see the hover tip on the balance slider)

3 - Clic on the hidden slider: balance changes (hover tip)

4 - Show balance slider again: balance has changed

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No one else has this issue ?

Thanks.

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@aymz

having seen your screenshots I went back and tested again. I wanted to see if I could see the ghost tooltips that you show in your images.

I can’t see these - BUT this time I find that I can replicate your movements of the invisible balance slider. I do get a tooltip then showing me how much I have moved the invisible slider. I can also move an invisible gain slider.

I will log this as an issue on Muse’s GitHub issues log (but first I will need to do some regression testing to see if this also occurs in earlier versions of Audacity - and I will also test on the alpha or latest nightly build for the upcoming AU4).

Peter

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@aymz

I just logged this issue: Invisible Pan and Gain sliders can be used to alter their settings · Issue #10407 · audacity/audacity · GitHub

It seems to be a regression on Audacity 3.5.1 - Muse made some changes to the TCP (Track Control Panel) for 3.6.0 to tidy it up and make it a bit more modern-looking - these invisibility-cloaked sliders seem to be a side-effect of those changes.

Thanks for the report @aymz much appreciated :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

Peter

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Also happens on Linux, so probably all platforms.