Focusrite Saphire 14. Can't select correct input

Hi
Device info


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Default recording device number: 3
Default playback device number: 3
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Device ID: 0
Device name: Built-in Microphone
Host name: Core Audio
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 0
Low Recording Latency: 0.001995
Low Playback Latency: 0.010000
High Recording Latency: 0.012154
High Playback Latency: 0.100000
Supported Rates:
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Device ID: 1
Device name: Built-in Output
Host name: Core Audio
Recording channels: 0
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.010000
Low Playback Latency: 0.010136
High Recording Latency: 0.100000
High Playback Latency: 0.020295
Supported Rates:
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Device ID: 2
Device name: LogMeIn Remote Sound
Host name: Core Audio
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.010000
Low Playback Latency: 0.001542
High Recording Latency: 0.100000
High Playback Latency: 0.011701
Supported Rates:
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Device ID: 3
Device name: Saffire
Host name: Core Audio
Recording channels: 8
Playback channels: 12
Low Recording Latency: 0.010000
Low Playback Latency: 0.003197
High Recording Latency: 0.100000
High Playback Latency: 0.013356
Supported Rates:
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Device ID: 4
Device name: Soundflower (2ch)
Host name: Core Audio
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.010000
Low Playback Latency: 0.001451
High Recording Latency: 0.100000
High Playback Latency: 0.011610
Supported Rates:
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Device ID: 5
Device name: Soundflower (64ch)
Host name: Core Audio
Recording channels: 64
Playback channels: 64
Low Recording Latency: 0.010000
Low Playback Latency: 0.001451
High Recording Latency: 0.100000
High Playback Latency: 0.011610
Supported Rates:
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Selected recording device: 3 - Saffire
Selected playback device: 3 - Saffire
Supported Rates:
    8000
    9600
    11025
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    384000
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Available mixers:
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Available recording sources:
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Available playback volumes:
0 - PCM
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Recording volume is emulated
Playback volume is emulated

Sorry but where do I find ‘Go’ in finder ?

Menu bar at the top of the screen (the “Application menu”).

Which drop down menu is that in
Audacity, file, edit, view, transport, tracks etc, which one ?

“Go” is in the Finder Application menu at the top of the screen. See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201956

Thank you for this assistance
See screenshot
Screen Shot 2017-04-05 at 10.40.50.png

To make an aggregate device, see Create an Aggregate Device to combine multiple audio devices – Apple Support (UK). I don’t know if you can add subchannels of a device to the aggregate, or take subchannels out after you added the device, but try it. It still gives you another device to try.

Gale

Yes the Saphire is just one device, so you can’t choose subdevices from it.


Gale

Also did you try Soundflower?

Download https://github.com/mattingalls/Soundflower/releases/download/2.0b2/Soundflower-2.0b2.dmg for macOS 10.9 and later or https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/soundflower/Soundflower-1.6.6b.dmg for macOS 10.6 to 10.8.

What version of macOS exactly do you have?


Gale

SPDIF is on channels 5&6, so I think that’s the end of it. To record channels 5&6 with Audacity you will need to record channels 1 to 6. To record only channels 5&6 you will need to use a different recording application (such as GarageBand or Logic).

I don’t see any way to route individual channels in the most recent version of Soundflower. “Soundflowerbed” is no longer part of Soundflower, so the only configuration I can find is the normal Mac Audio and Midi setup.

I’m puzzled as to why on Garageband spdif is on Ch 1&2.

So is it audacity that makes spdif Ch 5&6 on audacity, or the my Focusrite saffire pro that does so ?

Does anyone make a sound card with spdif going to ch 1&2 with audacity ?

If it makes any difference, you can still download Soundflowerbed separately http://forum.audacityteam.org/download/file.php?id=14089.


Gale

From the image you posted, Audio MIDI Setup itself sees S/PDIF as channels 5 and 6. That is probably why Steve thinks it is a hopeless case.

You might be able to edit a .plist file somewhere that would change the channel allocations but you would have to ask Focusrite about that. It’s risky to do things like that.

Does Garageband let you record channels 1 & 2, 3 & 4, 5 & 6 and so on? If so that is probably the key functionality that lets you record only the channels you want. The numbering may just be a GarageBand quirk that it lists digital inputs first.


Gale

Yes.

@Pobinr
Did you ever tell us what exactly you’re trying to do? You started off asking about recording a “guitar sound”, but I guess you’re not trying to record an actual guitar - so what are you trying to do?

Thanks Gale, just tried it. It’s a bit prone to crashing on Sierra, and it doesn’t help with this problem, but could be a useful little app for other purposes.

I record guitar from SPDIF out on this > https://www.kemper-amps.com/

Yes with Garageband using my Kemper spdif out, I just click on any track to highlight it, then click record & it records on that track.
With audacity 6 tracks open as default with spdif on 5 & 6

I can delete tracks 1 to 4 in audacity. But as soon as I click on ‘record’ then 6 new tracks open up with the spdif being the ones on the bottom.
Ref ‘‘edit a .plist file’’ I’m not that smart. Wouldn’t have a clue what I was doing :wink:

A couple of good, viable options which don’t require hacking your computer sound system:

  1. Record from the analog out of the Kemper (I’d go for this option)
  2. Record in Garagband, then save as WAV, and edit in Audacity.

Thanks your reply
1] Analogue would lose quality as it involves going from D to A & back to D again.
2]Yes I thought about copying to audacity as WAVs too.
Because Audacity is so good ergonomically for editing WAV’s. Much prefer it to Garageband.
But I’m still puzzled as to whether it’s Audacity that sticks the spdif in 5 & 6 or the focusrite ?
As I’d still like to get round this problem if possible.
If it’s down to the focusrite then maybe another make of card would be the solution