Elderly dummy has MP3 export issues

Forgot to mention: I got the .exe installers of both Lame and FF thingyumybob, not the zip. (Uninstalled Lame before installing FF…)

What edits are you making to the MP3’s? Every time you re-encode an MP3 in Audacity you lose quality. If you are just making volume edits and cut and paste edits, you can do that losslessly in MP3 direct editors.

To keep it simple, install LAME to export MP3 from Audacity. Follow only these instructions http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/faq_installation_and_plug_ins.html#lame.

There is no “Export as MP3” window in 2.0.6 - it’s called “Export Audio”. To get to that window, use File > Export Audio… . In the window you come to, choose “MP3 Files” to export MP3. I suggest you read only the current documentation here http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/file_export_dialog.html.

If you see hundreds of AU files you have not exported MP3, you have saved an Audacity Project. If you want to access that project, you have to open the AUP file for that project. Try opening the AUP from File > Recent Files top left of Audacity.


Gale

Hi, Gale.

I’m snipping, fading and tempo changing - so far - on a stereo audio track of solo flute stuff. That’s a lot of little edits, but I’m only importing and exporting once. I hear what you say about loss of quality but not too bothered with this project. Whatever, I’ll check MP3 direct editors. Thanks for the link.

‘Export Audio’ with an ‘…as MP3’ option -Yep, that’s what I’m looking for. But the link you gave me for the LAME download is the one I used - and for the FF download. And I followed intructions to the letter. Promise. Including the troubleshooting instructions, as per OP. Didn’t work with the exe files. I guess I should try zip files - you think?

(I deleted all those AUP files. I could try to get them back from the bin…just to see what happens, but I want to get my ‘Export audio’ window functioning. I don’t mind doing all the editing again.)

Scrap the last part of that last post - I’ve found the Audacity project, saved as you predicted, sitting on the desktop. Opened it with Audacity and all’s good. No need to re-do! Problem remains how to save/export it as an MP3.

Should I delete the FF thing befor re-installing LAME as a zip and seeing if that works?

Apologies for the stream-of-consciousness postings. No edit button (is there?) and waiting for moderation… which is fine.

To be clear: http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/file_export_dialog.html is exactly what I’m not getting when I go to File > Export audio (see OP).

You’ll have to use Audacity for that.

To begin with, simply import the MP3 you want then File > Export Audio… . That Export Audio window appears even if you don’t have LAME or FFmpeg installed. If you don’t see that window at all then you didn’t get Audacity from us. In that case I would uninstall the Audacity version you have now, and reinstall Audacity from Audacity ® | Download for Windows. Make sure that half way through the installer, you check (tick) the box that says “Reset Preferences”.

Have you now reinstalled LAME? I would do so - the instructions for using FFmpeg to export MP3 are more complex than if you have LAME. Alternatively, yes you can use the ZIP version of LAME. You can simply put the lame_enc.DLL file (extracted from the ZIP) in the same folder where Audacity is, then Audacity (supplied by us) will see LAME automatically.

Gale

When you have made enough posts to go off moderation, you will see an EDIT button in your own posts.

However it is best to post another reply if you want attention. Use EDIT just to correct some fact that is wrong.

Gale

FFmpeg does not interfere with LAME so you can leave FFmpeg installed. FFmpeg can still be useful if you ever want to import Windows Media files or import audio from video files.


Gale

Ooops. I DO have the ‘Export Audio’ window (dummy, see?). I did download the proper version of Audacity, from the link you gave, Gale. I’ll re-install LAME as a zip.

Thanks for sticking with it!

The latest:

LAME zip for windows downloaded and sitting, for the time being, on my desktop. And here’s where my knowledge base runs out.

The read-me says:

To build, replace the file "lame-3.98.2DllBladeMP3EncDLL.def"in the LAME source code with the one in this archive…

I took at stab at what that might mean. I got as far as Edit > Preferences > ‘MP3 Library: Locate,’ where I’m asked to give the location of lame_enc.dll (‘lame_enc.dll’ already entered and waiting to be over-written, I guess)…

I need baby-step instructions from here on. Would you or another helpful soul oblige?

Audacity can’t see it there. Right-click over the downloaded ZIP file and click on “Extract All”. Then you have a folder containing lame_enc.DLL, the README and the def file. Just ignore the README and the DEF file. Copy the lame_enc.DLL to the folder where you have Audacity installed and paste lame_enc.DLL in there.

You will need to be logged in as administrator if Audacity is installed in Program Files.


Gale

And by the way, I’m duty bound to refer you to this post showing you the risks you are running with XP, especially with SP2: audacity not saving - #3 by Gale_Andrews


Gale

I should have said: I have already extracted the file onto the desktop, so I do see the 3 files - and I get that the DLL is the only one Audacity needs.

Copy the lame_enc.DLL to the folder where you have Audacity installed and paste lame_enc.DLL in there.

See, that’s the bit I don’t understand. I don’t understand exactly what I need to do to 'copy the lame_enc.DLL to the folder where have Audacity installed’ - and then ‘paste lame_enc.DLL in there’.

So if you could please tell me exactly how to find where Audacity is installed (I know the name of the location - see above - but don’t know how to access it other than via the start >search do-dad), and then tell me what to do to ‘copy the lame_enc.DLL to that folder’…and then what to do to ‘paste lame_enc.DLL in there’, I’d be dead grateful : )

[At the risk of displaying just how dumb I can be about these things, this is what I tried: To find out where Audacity lives and access it, I used the start > search function. From the selection of temp, exe, etc files that showed up, I assumed that ‘C:Documents and SettingsApplication DataAudacity’ is the folder I’m looking for(?). So I drag/dropped the lame_enc.DLL file into the window containing that folder, closed search, and re-started Audacity. Audacity is still looking for the lame_enc.DLL…]

Yeah, thanks Gale. I’m aware and have got sp3 sitting waiting…something else I need to get my head around!

OK, but most users find that easier than locating the lame_enc.DLL in Audacity’s Libraries Preferences. :wink:

And even that should not have been necessary if when you installed LAME, you installed it to its default location in Program Files (or Program Files (x86) if you have a 64-bit machine).

That’s the folder where Audacity keeps its application data, like the audacity.cfg file that Audacity stores its settings in.

Audacity.exe should be what you are looking for. That should be either the installer, or the Audacity application itself.

Otherwise, have you tried looking in the Program Files/Audacity or Program Files (x86)/Audacity folder? That’s where most people install Audacity.


Gale

Important update:

Guess what? I found programme files! Yes. And, within it, all the Audacity files! I’ve got my unzipped LAME DLL sitting on the desktop, eagerly awaiting something useful to do with itself. So now…?

So now, paste it or drag it (it must be called lame_enc.DLL) it into the Audacity folder you found in Program Files.


Gale

Done…

Edit: I couldn’t wait, so I tried to export my audio as MP3 and - hey presto - it happened!! So that’s it…or is there anything else to be done? …Can I delete the BLADEMP3…DEF file that came with the zip (as well as the Read-me?)?

Well, if you are satisfied with our unsurpassed, almost immediate technical support, would you like to make a donation http://audacityteam.org/donate/?

The only other consideration may be if you are satisfied with the MP3 quality. If it sounds a bit honky or tinkly, press Options… in that Export Audio window and change to a higher bit rate. If you want the file smaller and want to risk more loss of quality, reduce the bit rate.


Gale

Thanks a bunch, Gale! Sadly, I’ve been unemployed for a long time without independent means of support, but should things change you’ll certainly be on my list of folks deserving of remuneration.

And thanks for the bit-rate tip. I will re-set - distorted higher flute frequencies can be pretty unpleasant.