# A vicious circle with sibilants **URL:** \ **Category:** Making Music\ **Created:** [January 10, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/a-vicious-circle-with-sibilants/63908 "2022-01-10T21:11:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
**Author:** ![Trebor](https://forum.audacityteam.org/user_avatar/forum.audacityteam.org/trebor/32/45854_2.png) [@Trebor](https://forum.audacityteam.org/u/Trebor)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/a-vicious-circle-with-sibilants/63908/12 "2022-01-13T07:38:00Z")
Using a (single band) limiter or compressor with make-up gain will inevitably increase sibilance. So, IMO, De-Essing should be applied after any limiter/compressor/EQ. [/uploads/default/original/3X/d/f/df8fcf1c4a8e03800b9806a2227800c6c629841f.flac](https://forum.audacityteam.org/uploads/default/original/3X/d/f/df8fcf1c4a8e03800b9806a2227800c6c629841f.flac) ![effects used.png](https://forum.audacityteam.org/uploads/default/original/3X/d/6/d624a9430c9aaf0a38d499467b516584e6cfba07.png) [Desibilator](https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/updated-de-clicker-and-new-de-esser-for-speech/34283/199), [LevelSpeech2](https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/improved-leveling-for-speech/33258/27), RMS Normalization = [Loudness Normalization](https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/loudness_normalization.html) Could make a [macro](https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/macros.html) of this list of effects to apply them in one fell swoop. --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/a-vicious-circle-with-sibilants/63908)._