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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by kozikowski » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:24 am

Everybody gets Noise Reduction wrong. The object is not to create Dead Blackness of Space silence between your words. Assuming a normal, gentle rain-in-the-trees hiss in the background, it's to make it so you can't hear it at normal listening volume.

Set my response clip so your voice is normal listening volume. Don't change anything and listen to the silent portion at the beginning letting it play into the voice. The hiss noises should be very nearly completely gone. It's important that it not completely vanish for another reason. ACX has a failure called Overprocessing. Odd sounding voice and dead zero noise can be cause for rejection.

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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by kozikowski » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:27 am

Good voice if I didn't mention that.

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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by kozikowski » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:12 am

-- You can get LF-Rolloff from me.

http://www.kozco.com/tech/audacity/Docu ... ch.xml.zip

Decompress the ZIP archive into LF_rolloff_for_speech.xml. It's pretty tiny.

Adding Audacity Equalization Curves
-- Select something on the timeline.
-- Effect > Equalization > Save/Manage Curves > Import
-- Select LF_rolloff_for_speech.xml > OK. (it won't open the ZIP. You have to decompress it)
-- LF rolloff for speech now appears in the equalization preset curve list.


The Equalizer Filter Length setting should be around 5000.


-- You can get SetRMS from me.

http://www.kozco.com/tech/audacity/Docu ... MS.txt.zip

Download it and decompress it into a plain text file. That's Nyquist programming language.

Open it in a text editor, select it all and Copy.

Select some sound > Effect > Nyquist Prompt. Paste the text in the blank Nyquist Window > OK. Mine sticks in that window time after time without pasting it again. Don't lose any of those downloads.

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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by kozikowski » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:59 am

The thumb and pinky gesture is the Shaka Hawaiian sign for Hang Loose. And yes, that is about the right spacing.

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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by Number400 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:39 pm

Wow Koz, that sounds so warm and natural compared to my edits, even on my headset at work. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to work on this! I am going to read through your posts and cannot wait to get cracking when I get home from work. I have a much better feeling about production than yesterday, thanks for that!
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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by Trebor » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:19 pm

kozikowski wrote: SAFTC-Patched.wav (1.4 MiB)

I'd be tempted to apply Paul-L's De-clicker ...

''Get a Good looK'', Before-After Paul-L's DeClicker with settings shown.flac
I may have over-done the declick , but you get the idea
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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by Number400 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:16 pm

kozikowski wrote:Everybody gets Noise Reduction wrong. The object is not to create Dead Blackness of Space silence between your words. Assuming a normal, gentle rain-in-the-trees hiss in the background, it's to make it so you can't hear it at normal listening volume.

Set my response clip so your voice is normal listening volume. Don't change anything and listen to the silent portion at the beginning letting it play into the voice. The hiss noises should be very nearly completely gone. It's important that it not completely vanish for another reason. ACX has a failure called Overprocessing. Odd sounding voice and dead zero noise can be cause for rejection.

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Guilty as charged here. My experience with the noise reduction plug-in was just to use it as-is and boom, noise is gone. With 20 as the default number, I can see why it is so effective (but at a cost). I read some forum posts and saw that some people ran noise reduction too far and that was flagged by ACX as being overly treated. Your advice and experience is a great education and I plan to remaster all of my completed chapters.

Thanks again,
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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by Number400 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:32 pm

Trebor wrote:
kozikowski wrote: SAFTC-Patched.wav (1.4 MiB)

I'd be tempted to apply Paul-L's De-clicker ...

''Get a Good looK'', Before-After Paul-L's DeClicker with settings shown.flac
Paul-L's DeClicker settings used.png


Yup, I use that one. I am trying to train myself away from it but I click. Some days are better than others but I always run it. Thanks!
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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by kozikowski » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:22 pm

I agree. I favor microphones which don't put that grit in the sound in the first place.

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Re: Soft voice and microphone levels

Permanent link to this post Posted by Number400 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:56 pm

Wow Koz, your treatments in this post are working well for me. I sound like me again! On top of the great plug-ins, A big takeaway is your advice on noise reduction. For my current project, I was blindly using the default setting on 20 and now I can pass ACX without any. For consistency with the earlier chapters, I am doing a light treatment, but only at a 2 setting. With that large level of NR, I was sounding a lot like HAL (for us old guys).

Thanks again and Happy Holidays!!!!!!
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