logan9fingers wrote:I'm sorry, but I can't be so relaxed about this subject.
How long has Audacity been going? That's a rhetorical question. You mentioned being focused on usability. Do you have any idea how many times over the past 12 years I have had a look at using Audacity...downloaded it, tried to use it, given up? I've lost count, and if I'm still having that problem, you can sure bet others are too. I've just googled high contrast themes/skins, and found a number of people who have actually bothered to write to one forum or another, to see if they can improve the visual usability of Audacity, and found that you either have to have a high level of tech knowledge, or pretty much forget it! Believe it or not, people seeing the software comes under both usability and compatibly, and that needs to be a priority, like yesterday!
What I find boggling is, that I read somewhere that you actually did have the ability to change themes at one point, but that you took this functionality away. Why?
I am visually impaired, and rely on 'High Contrast Black' in Windows. I can see Audacity's menus, as that follows the Windows theme. I can see the darker elements by using shapes and tool tips. I cannot see, and this is seemingly fundamental to the functionality to Audacity, the track section. I have Zoomtext, which can invert the colours, but it won't invert the colours in Audacity to the point where I can see what to do, or what's happening in, what I think you call, the spectragraph...or something.
Everyone who does audio editing sings the praises of Audacity, but I can't use it, and nor, I suspect, can a lot of others, being that my sight and hearing loss is not uncommon. I and others have been excluded, shut out, whatever you want to call it, from using your software, because you haven't given enough prority to a customization interface, and you've had plenty of time to do so.
Even though Goldwave is not a multi track recorder, at least it is fully accessible. I wanted to try Audacity, as so many of my friends are using it...but I can't. I guess I have no choice but to buy a Goldwave licence, instead of donating to yourselves.
Gale Andrews wrote:Audacity is free and the developers are volunteers. Themes are not usually regarded as a "fun" or scientific thing for developers to work on.
It is quite likely that some kind of switchable theming will come back in Audacity release after next, and that one of the themes will be orange on black. It is not explicitly a High Contrast Theme.
But I don't think you're talking about themes at all, as I understand it. Just that switching to Windows High Contrast Themes does not switch all of the interface as it should. It never did, even when we last had a very poor theming feature.
Galelogan9fingers wrote:I'm sorry, but I can't be so relaxed about this subject.
How long has Audacity been going? That's a rhetorical question. You mentioned being focused on usability. Do you have any idea how many times over the past 12 years I have had a look at using Audacity...downloaded it, tried to use it, given up? I've lost count, and if I'm still having that problem, you can sure bet others are too. I've just googled high contrast themes/skins, and found a number of people who have actually bothered to write to one forum or another, to see if they can improve the visual usability of Audacity, and found that you either have to have a high level of tech knowledge, or pretty much forget it! Believe it or not, people seeing the software comes under both usability and compatibly, and that needs to be a priority, like yesterday!
What I find boggling is, that I read somewhere that you actually did have the ability to change themes at one point, but that you took this functionality away. Why?
I am visually impaired, and rely on 'High Contrast Black' in Windows. I can see Audacity's menus, as that follows the Windows theme. I can see the darker elements by using shapes and tool tips. I cannot see, and this is seemingly fundamental to the functionality to Audacity, the track section. I have Zoomtext, which can invert the colours, but it won't invert the colours in Audacity to the point where I can see what to do, or what's happening in, what I think you call, the spectragraph...or something.
Everyone who does audio editing sings the praises of Audacity, but I can't use it, and nor, I suspect, can a lot of others, being that my sight and hearing loss is not uncommon. I and others have been excluded, shut out, whatever you want to call it, from using your software, because you haven't given enough prority to a customization interface, and you've had plenty of time to do so.
Even though Goldwave is not a multi track recorder, at least it is fully accessible. I wanted to try Audacity, as so many of my friends are using it...but I can't. I guess I have no choice but to buy a Goldwave licence, instead of donating to yourselves.
Gale Andrews wrote:I spoke to one of the developers about this, and in principle he is open to including a high contrast theme in the Audacity version after next. No guarantees yet but if so, we wouldn't fix that the standard theme does not fully adjust to operating system High Contrast Themes. That fix is a lot of work and might interfere with what we are doing for theming.
GaleGale Andrews wrote:Audacity is free and the developers are volunteers. Themes are not usually regarded as a "fun" or scientific thing for developers to work on.
It is quite likely that some kind of switchable theming will come back in Audacity release after next, and that one of the themes will be orange on black. It is not explicitly a High Contrast Theme.
But I don't think you're talking about themes at all, as I understand it. Just that switching to Windows High Contrast Themes does not switch all of the interface as it should. It never did, even when we last had a very poor theming feature.
Galelogan9fingers wrote:I'm sorry, but I can't be so relaxed about this subject.
How long has Audacity been going? That's a rhetorical question. You mentioned being focused on usability. Do you have any idea how many times over the past 12 years I have had a look at using Audacity...downloaded it, tried to use it, given up? I've lost count, and if I'm still having that problem, you can sure bet others are too. I've just googled high contrast themes/skins, and found a number of people who have actually bothered to write to one forum or another, to see if they can improve the visual usability of Audacity, and found that you either have to have a high level of tech knowledge, or pretty much forget it! Believe it or not, people seeing the software comes under both usability and compatibly, and that needs to be a priority, like yesterday!
What I find boggling is, that I read somewhere that you actually did have the ability to change themes at one point, but that you took this functionality away. Why?
I am visually impaired, and rely on 'High Contrast Black' in Windows. I can see Audacity's menus, as that follows the Windows theme. I can see the darker elements by using shapes and tool tips. I cannot see, and this is seemingly fundamental to the functionality to Audacity, the track section. I have Zoomtext, which can invert the colours, but it won't invert the colours in Audacity to the point where I can see what to do, or what's happening in, what I think you call, the spectragraph...or something.
Everyone who does audio editing sings the praises of Audacity, but I can't use it, and nor, I suspect, can a lot of others, being that my sight and hearing loss is not uncommon. I and others have been excluded, shut out, whatever you want to call it, from using your software, because you haven't given enough prority to a customization interface, and you've had plenty of time to do so.
Even though Goldwave is not a multi track recorder, at least it is fully accessible. I wanted to try Audacity, as so many of my friends are using it...but I can't. I guess I have no choice but to buy a Goldwave licence, instead of donating to yourselves.
oldpink wrote:I've upgraded to Audacity v. 2.1.3, and I like most of the new features, but there's one area that I wish worked as it did with 2.1.2, namely the ability of themes to change the background color.
I had been using the Dark Audacity theme with the older version, with the big selling point being that the background made dark made it much easier to see where I was editing my audio, but now the exact same theme only partially works, with the buttons changing, but the background is stuck at the ugly default color that you get when running without a theme at all.
Was this intentional, a mistake, or is this planned to be restored in the next revision (2.1.4?), or ???
Thanks for whatever you can explain about this.
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