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Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by poseidan » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:54 am

Hi all,

I just did a clean install of macOS Sierra and then reinstalled Audacity (audacity-macosx-ub-2.1.2.dmg). However, I can't find a few plugins, for example limiter is missing from the plugin manager as well as in the drop down menu. I looked through the actual plugin folder and found it there but for some strange reason, it just doesn't show up in the drop down or in the plugin manager (please see attached photos)

I then thought I would try downloading optional plugins and putting them into the plugin folder but that didn't work either... I also notice the "nyquist" folder is not in the plug-in folder in the Audacity folder under applications, and was wondering why... I remember in the previous version I put in optional plugins under the plug-in folder and everything worked out well.

I use Limiter and Hard Limiter a lot and I'm not sure what I am doing wrong and would be grateful for any help.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by Gale Andrews » Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:59 pm

The "Nyquist" folder was never supposed to be inside the "Plug-ins" folder in your previous installation. The "Nyquist" folder should be alongside "Plug-ins".

Hard Limiter no longer ships with Audacity. If you want it, obtain https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/swh-plugins-mac-0.4.15.zip.

Make sure you are not executing Audacity from inside the DMG because that prevents Nyquist plugins being detected.

Look at Audacity > Preferences..., Effects section and ensure you have Nyquist and all other plugin types you want checked off (ticked).


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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by poseidan » Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:20 pm

Gale Andrews wrote:The "Nyquist" folder was never supposed to be inside the "Plug-ins" folder in your previous installation. The "Nyquist" folder should be alongside "Plug-ins".

Hard Limiter no longer ships with Audacity. If you want it, obtain https://www.fosshub.com/Audacity.html/swh-plugins-mac-0.4.15.zip.

Make sure you are not executing Audacity from inside the DMG because that prevents Nyquist plugins being detected.

Look at Audacity > Preferences..., Effects section and ensure you have Nyquist and all other plugin types you want checked off (ticked).


Gale


Hi Gale,

Thanks for your response. For my previous install, I'm not sure where the "Nyquist" was, but currently it is not in the plug-ins folder, but a separate one under the Audacity folder in the Applications folder.

I understand Hard Limiter is no longer available with Audacity, but currently, as can be seen from the above screen shots, there is no limiter at all.

I checked the Audacity > Preferences > Effects section and all plugins have been checked off / ticked. So I am not sure what I'm doing wrong.

When I installed, I transferred the dmg file to the applications prior to installation. When I open the program, I go to the application folder to open it, or launch it from launchpad.
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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by Gale Andrews » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:06 pm

You could quit Audacity, open Finder, use the Go menu, Go to Folder, open
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~/Library/Application Support/

then trash the "audacity" folder.

Then trash the folder where Audacity is in /Applications and install Audacity again from http://www.audacityteam.org/download/mac.


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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by Rutheday » Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:51 pm

Hi..

I also have just performed a clean install of OS X 10.12 (sierra) and have re installed audacity 2.1.2.
It now appears that Audacity doesn't see the plug in folder at all. I have trashed the folder from application support and reinstalled as per the above advice.

None of the plug-ins from the plug-in folder inside the Audacity folder within Applications appear on opening Audacity nor are they available to be enabled from the add/remove plug-ins menu..

anybody had a similar problem? Found a fix?

Thankyou

R
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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by Gale Andrews » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:46 am

Rutheday wrote:I also have just performed a clean install of OS X 10.12 (sierra) and have re installed audacity 2.1.2. It now appears that Audacity doesn't see the plug in folder at all. I have trashed the folder from application support and reinstalled as per the above advice.

None of the plug-ins from the plug-in folder inside the Audacity folder within Applications appear on opening Audacity nor are they available to be enabled from the add/remove plug-ins menu..

It does not happen to me on Sierra.

Make sure you are not executing Audacity from inside the DMG because that prevents Nyquist plugins being detected.

Is it some new permissions problem in Sierra? Are you logged in as admin or standard user? I am logged in as admin. Can you post the Support Data ZIP file from Help > Generate Support Data... top right of Audacity?

Also look in Applications > Utilities > Console.app. Is there anything relevant there?


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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by Rutheday » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:30 am

Hi Gale,

Thanks for getting back to me so quick. I am logged in as admin, and Audacity was very definitely opened from within the Applications folder not the .dmg, after the .dmg had been unmounted. None of the plug ins are showing up, the analyst menu for example only contains "Contrast, Plot spectrum and Find Clipping"

I have attached the support file. I don't really know what I'm looking for in Console -there are several Audacity reports- a couple of cpu resource reports, a couple of wake-up resource reports and one hang. If you let me know what would be useful I'll put them up.

cheers

R
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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by poseidan » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:26 am

Gale Andrews wrote:You could quit Audacity, open Finder, use the Go menu, Go to Folder, open
Code: Select all
~/Library/Application Support/

then trash the "audacity" folder.

Then trash the folder where Audacity is in /Applications and install Audacity again from http://www.audacityteam.org/download/mac.


Gale


Thanks Gale. I have done this many times. I use App Zapper to uninstall and I have uninstalled an reinstalled many times over. I even tried installing the older versions and I have the same problem.

Rutheday wrote:Hi..

I also have just performed a clean install of OS X 10.12 (sierra) and have re installed audacity 2.1.2.
It now appears that Audacity doesn't see the plug in folder at all. I have trashed the folder from application support and reinstalled as per the above advice.

None of the plug-ins from the plug-in folder inside the Audacity folder within Applications appear on opening Audacity nor are they available to be enabled from the add/remove plug-ins menu..

anybody had a similar problem? Found a fix?

Thankyou

R


I am so glad I am not the only one. Yes, it seems like Audacity doesn't see the plug-in folder at all. And even the effects that it does, does not include the limiter plugin.
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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by poseidan » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:34 am

Gale Andrews wrote:
Rutheday wrote:I also have just performed a clean install of OS X 10.12 (sierra) and have re installed audacity 2.1.2. It now appears that Audacity doesn't see the plug in folder at all. I have trashed the folder from application support and reinstalled as per the above advice.

None of the plug-ins from the plug-in folder inside the Audacity folder within Applications appear on opening Audacity nor are they available to be enabled from the add/remove plug-ins menu..

It does not happen to me on Sierra.

Make sure you are not executing Audacity from inside the DMG because that prevents Nyquist plugins being detected.

Is it some new permissions problem in Sierra? Are you logged in as admin or standard user? I am logged in as admin. Can you post the Support Data ZIP file from Help > Generate Support Data... top right of Audacity?

Also look in Applications > Utilities > Console.app. Is there anything relevant there?


Gale


Yes, I am logged on as admin. Are the plugins registry and plugins settings at the Support Data meant to be unchecked / unticked?
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Re: Help with Plugins - macOS Sierra

Permanent link to this post Posted by Gale Andrews » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:02 pm

poseidan wrote:Are the plugins registry and plugins settings at the Support Data meant to be unchecked / unticked?

Put a checkmark by all the items. Any items that are unchecked are not included in the report.


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