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Re: Noise Gate with a sidechain?

Permanent link to this postPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:09 am
Posted by FlipFlops2001
kozikowski wrote:The nit-picker is raising his hand.
This isn't a side chain noise gate. This is a side chain gate.
A gating effect is cause to happen from work on a second sound channel. It does not trigger a gate that then starts evaluating and processing noise.

Koz


Set properly, when a gate closes it is muting unwanted audio or noise. That's why it's called a noise gate. This has nothing to do with the sidechain. How it is triggered, whether it be a separate audio source, or more commonly the source signal bandwidth limited, it is still gating off unwanted sounds, which in my book is considered noise.

i.e.: When I gate a rack tom on a drum kit, I'll bandwidth limit the trigger with a narrow response, depending on the tuning of the tom, somewhere around 315hz . This way cymbals, kick drum, and to an extent, the snare, all of which are unwanted signals in a tom mic, will not open said gate, and since the area of 315Hz is usually a pretty dominant tom frequency the gate will open without having to squash the threshold which in turn would shave off the peak response of the drum. NOTE: The gate must be inserted pre-eq/pre-fader so that eq and level changes (not gain) do not affect the performance of the gate.

Need reference, read: http://www.prosoundweb.com/channels/church/noise_gates_101_what_they_do_how_to_use_them_optimally/.

-Glenn (FlipFlops2001)
Independent Audio Engineer (FOH, MON, SE, Studio): 1979-present

Re: Noise Gate with a sidechain?

Permanent link to this postPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:58 am
Posted by steve
FlipFlops2001 wrote:That's why it's called a noise gate.

A gate may be used to reduce the level of sound that you want to keep, in which case it's not a "noise" gate, it's just a "gate". That was koz's pedantic point.
First line of Wikipedia article:
A noise gate or gate ...


FlipFlops2001 wrote:NOTE: The gate must be inserted pre-eq/pre-fader so that eq and level changes (not gain) do not affect the performance of the gate.

Note also that that is totally irrelevant to Audacity as effects are applied directly to the track audio data, so eq / fader settings are irrelevant.

Re: Noise Gate with a sidechain?

Permanent link to this postPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:44 am
Posted by erinpeterson
Nevermind! Got it! :)